@aparrish aw heck
@aparrish The more I think about Mastodon, as a project, as a social network, the more I think it challenges the definition of success. Everyone, especially detractors, are quick to call it a failure or a nice try. While our daily activities here tend to show us the opposite. What is a successful social network that does not play the rules of close VC funded ones?
We've bypassed that barrier by federating discrete communities of interest that often require only a dozen or two active users to be vital places, so we're quietly building critical mass via a mechanism they don't grok... 😁
@xuv @apexys @xuv @aparrish The critical mass I'm talking about is the point at which the network effect of the #fediverse outweighs that of the vectoral monopolists' walled gardens, and FB, #birdsite, etc., come tumbling down.
We've already got the critical mass to have a network of vibrant communities; still some work to do before we can sow Zuckerberg's fields with salt... :P
@mattcropp @xuv @apexys @aparrish Oh, I see. Though I'm not sure this is desirable or even possible. :) On an idealistic level, I agree with you. But the money that pours into those networks is never going to be available to sustain the alternatives. There is a capitalist demand for close central aggregations. The decentralize alternatives have to find other ways to sustain themselves. That also mean, a different scale.
@xuv @mattcropp @apexys @aparrish
I actually suspect that the good way would be in some future to have multiple "forks"/usage of mastodon (gui and tools) and strong impulsion also on other federated tools to build a more diverse fediverse, that will gain on the system by being anywhere/everywhere in multiple forms, not as "one" federated network but as multiple networks each having their style and use, federated together.
there will be no mass, but a multitude ;)
@xuv @aparrish (you might've already seen this but just in case/to have it explicitly in the replies for people who haven't, there's this relevant hashtag-Classic:
@gaditb @xuv @aparrish I did not know of this article. The ridiculous tone apart, it's a good example of using traditional marketing filters to analyze something that does not fall in that category. Of course it's going to tick everything wrong. I'm not surprised that with a mind set like this, they can't see any value in Mastodon. The weird thing is I saw a marketing opportunity for the NFL. Am I the only one?
I think this is a difficult question to respond to since I believe everyone is on Mastodon with different goals and expectations and some may have no particular sense of purpose.
In my own case I'm here, and on other social media, as part of an on-going effort intended to help youth in poverty have stronger, longer, support systems.
At http://www.tutormentorexchange.net/strategy I show four strategies that I focus on daily which need support from many others.
@xuv Absolutely love this question. Places like this challenge the fundamental reason of why people use social media and their answers show a major point of differentiation on that particular topic.
It's always fun being in a new thing, and good to be in something that is a winner, but what about something that isn't new or a winner? It will be interesting to see.
@aparrish Thanks for speaking up! 👍
@aparrish Was? Past tense? Flash in the pan? I don’t get it. I have been keeping an eye on the metrics bots’ reports. The fediverse is steadily growing, Mastodon or otherwise.
I’m about to close my moribund birdsite accounts, myself. The decibel levels are too high over there.
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