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Jim Luke (econproph) @econproph

@Cmadland @ShorterPearson @Tdorey @lauraritchie @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog @robparsons @katebowles @fgraver "transform" has a lot of appeal, too. Thanks. I esp like the transform something and/or oneself. It also fits w/ what i'm seeing as the motivation to attend college/uni. It's not the "get a better job" or "get career", it's "transform my life, become someone, join a community".

@lauraritchie Thanks! I've got your book on order now.

@econproph @ShorterPearson @Tdorey @lauraritchie @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog @katebowles @fgraver I use "learning". In the OU we are taught to sa we don't teach, we enable learning. Some dislike that, as it is sometimes interpreted as a status thing. I like it.

@econproph I wrote a book on that - on how to allow students to learn for themselves, as that's the way it becomes meaningful (I think at least)

Student agency, self-belief, and lots of little steps... but the verb for me is doing. It's not always so popular because it is hard work and the teacher is not the one in the limelight...

@ShorterPearson @Tdorey @lauraritchie @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog @robparsons @katebowles @fgraver
Does this mean "student centered education" is an oxymoron? Isn't it really "student targeted education"?

Maybe I just need to chill out and search for cat memes.

So for all you folks that know much more about this pedagogy stuff, this is what's bugging me lately. We talk about education. The verb is 'to educate'. But educate always makes the student the object or recipient. We the teachers are the subjects doing the verb.
What verb do I use if I want to make the student the subject, the actor? Learn?
@ShorterPearson @Tdorey @lauraritchie @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog @robparsons @katebowles @fgraver

@Tdorey @katebowles @lauraritchie @robparsons @ShorterPearson @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog

I love the idea of an employee-owned, co-operatively run non-profit education. Making it distributed too, combining both local ftf. meeting points with online connections makes it even more appealing.

One can't get around some hard costs, and I doubt there will be corporate sponsors lining up, but it could be feasible.

@twryst @lauraritchie @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @reembodied

"Shy of abolishing capitalism, idk how we fix it" - exactly. I don't think there is a way to fix it without abolishing capitalism. The problem is, as always, how to show people who are concerned about homes, families, jobs, etc., that the way to make life better is to completely replace the economic system their lives currently depend on...

@katebowles @Tdorey @lauraritchie @robparsons @ShorterPearson @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog
Successful studs get that community & identity often, but it's a byproduct of what the uni tries to do. Uni tries to control & deliver "knowledge" and "educate" them.

What if we focused first on creating connections & micro communities about some desired learning - forget whether it's a "course" or not. Let's build the mini communities, let's connect them. Content's only a tool to forge connections.

@katebowles @Tdorey @lauraritchie @robparsons @ShorterPearson @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog

So here's some beginning thots. MOOC's & uni's & colleges today are trapped by their thinking - they're in a content trap. They think students are buying content: courses bundled into curriculum packaged as degrees which are exchangeable for jobs.

They are wrong. Studs want to change their lives by joining a community & forging a new identity. Studs want connections.

@katebowles @Tdorey @lauraritchie @robparsons @ShorterPearson @actualham @bonstewart @cogdog

Oh my, Kate! This is precisely what I've been working on the last few weeks and having a flood of ideas/insights. Unfortunately, with my other commitments it's resulted in a bad case of blogstipation (lots to say, no time to write it).

@Tdorey It took much longer to get to this than I had hoped, Tanya, but I finally did make some comments. I like the questions you've posed. @katebowles , you might be interested in my response as well - or at least I'm interested in your response to my response to her! @lauraritchie

@Tdorey @katebowles @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @mahabali @lauraritchie @sundilu @actualham @twryst i will reply, but like Laura, I won't be able to get to it for another couple days. But I will.

Desperately hoping to get some thoughts on this blog post, *especially* dissenting voices - different ways of thinking.


@katebowles @econproph @ShorterPearson @clhendricksbc @mahabali @lauraritchie @sundilu @actualham @twryst and any others out there inclined to help poke holes in my reasoning :)

@actualham Don't know about "most beautiful", but "most fascinating" for me is always the last or current one I'm visiting. Guess that's the social scientist in me. I'm fascinated by how people cope & live in wherever they live, and less so by natural features I guess.
That said, I'll take any body of big water any time: ocean, lake, river.

@bthall spkg of Price as independent var & Q as dependent reminds me of another trivia. In econ we put P, the independent, on Y axis and Q, the dependent on X. Backwards from std math treatment. Reason: Economists developed the P-Q graph in late 19th century (Marshall, esp). Mathematicians didn't come to consensus on making X axis as independent var until early 20th century. Habits are hard to break.

So ever since, Econ princ texts confuse heck out of students who actually learned algebra