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@Outmazi Too bad it is CIS HET oriented. It reminds me of an old novel I read decades ago called Chrome which was GAY

@Outmazi I once had respect for but not anymore. He's another like

@HistoPol @Outmazi Thanks for the link and the support. My degree is in . Interestingly, one can prompt Google Gemini and ChatGPT to characterize the personalities of politicians and people on the web from using their own words and various psychological instruments:

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Interestingly, Claude would not do the same for Kolbe and PRINT assessments.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi I use all the AIs. LOL I treat them like : some can see the web and images, some are non-verbal, some forget things and have a short attention span. LOL. I have been trying to create an R script that prompts all of them the same thing, return the response to the promt and put the responses in a side by side table for comparison.

@HistoPol @paninid @Outmazi I do it manually and shove the responses into spreadsheets. It's a time consuming royal pain in the ass to do. But the exercise is very illuminating.

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Until and unless you run your own private LLM, it is subject to the biases of the model owner.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi Absolutely. Moreover, the output is generally screened--especially for "sensitive topics". The screening process is biased.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi Gemini refuses to answer questions about political candidates.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi My first experience with this was asking questions about religions. I asked questions about . Gemini told me some denominations were tied to . This was new to me. I started asking questions. Gemini Stopped Answering. ChatGPT would answer. Claude would answer. Google has an agenda.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi Similarly, Gemini would not answer or would obnubilate and obfuscate for many religious denominations. I started with the PEW Religious Landscape Study to create a founders table to study Why People Believe What They Believe and how religion spreads.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum Some religious movements are backlashes to social movements like

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@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum Here is a snapshot of my current founders table developed by AI. It took months.

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum I laugh out loud every time I watch that bit, and then I question

@paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum It's also a good use of my degree in Applied Stats/Measurement, my early beliefs and studies when I thought I wanted to be a Priest, and keeps an old retired statistician who likes AI from . Lolol.

@_9CL7T9k8cjnD_ @paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum Emo Philips' show was easily the funniest I've ever been to. He is a one of a kind.

Here's a link to the same joke, but with the first half still intact. What a brilliant mind !
youtube.com/watch?v=l3fAcxcxoZ

@liquor_american @paninid @HistoPol @Outmazi @Beachbum Thanks for this. I have seen it but opted for the shorter version because of Theater.

@HistoPol @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum Currently around 800 religious "denominations". I grew frustrated with Gemini when it refused to answer question. And became pedantic about founders/leaders.

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Have you met Dr. Michael Blume @BlumeEvolution, a political and religious scientist, as well as a book author and blogger?
He wrote an interesting article (in German, though,) on this week.
He might be interested in your religious table on "Why People Believe What They Believe and how religion spreads."

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@HistoPol @BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum I've had 1 year of college German, for my degree in Music, so, I can get maybe every 14th word....or use Google Translate.

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My suggestion, since the non-pro version is limited and I quite like the MS translator for scientific texts:

Copy the complete blog including the interesting comments into MS Word.
Then click translate document.

If one language is English, the result is usually quite good and it only takes a minute. Also, if I'm really into the subject, I can make Comments, highlight parts, and save the whole thing on the HDD for future reference.
@BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum

@HistoPol @BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum And maybe I'll try Schiller and Goethe too. It would be interesting to see how those machine translations differ from the ones I have read.

I have actually been impressed with the machine translation of Pinking Shears by Mandy Indiana. I've had 4 years of high school French, so I get every 3rd word. Lol. youtu.be/V8I7JGpeI-E

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I've read both versions in a synopsis and I agree the translation is quite good. I couldn't see any real error.
Even though I have a degree in translations, my French is not good enough to ascertain whether the language level is kept at all times.

As you mention Schiller:
He translated MacBeth. Reading that shows who really is a genius with words. I'd posit the oeuvre is equally well written in both languages.

I'm curious,...
@BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum

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...an excellent translator would render the translation in British or American English of contemporaries of the late 18th / early 19th centuries as well...

@BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum

@HistoPol @BlumeEvolution @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum If you want to see something I think is amazing, take a song or a poem that has deep meaning to you personally, and prompt ChatGPT to do a Hermeneutical or Close reading of the work of art.

Do you have an nickname/alias you use here, @_9CL7T9k8cjnD_ ?

I am deeply impressed, though the poem is not all too cryptic for those people with a heart, it seems to be accessible for a nascent AGI, despite neither having one or conscious thoughts.

There are some small interpretational errors in block 1 and 4, however overall, I am deeply impressed by .

Let's try another language w/o translation by a real master of poetry,

poemas-del-alma.com/poema-7.htm

Inclinado...

www.poemas-del-alma.comPoema VII de Pablo Neruda - 20 poemas de amor y una canción desesperada

@HistoPol I uploaded the images of your originals and gave this prompt:

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BTW, who said that the original was in German?

@HistoPol Sorry. I ASSuMEd made and ASSuption.

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The reason I asked:
I'd hate one version to be less eloquent then the other one. ;)

@HistoPol My name is a randomly generated string beginning and ending with the space symbol. My name is Paul.

@HistoPol I'm an odd bird. I have degrees in Music Theory/Composition, Biology, and Applied Statistics/Measurement. Taught Math and Science in Kenya, East Africa in a Harambee Girls School 2 hours north of Nairobi for the US Peace Corps. Have been married 18 years to a beautiful talented woman who I helped die of Mesothelioma. Will celebrate 15 years with my Big Bear Husband. Retired from a career in Pharma/Biotech Taught at a university About to collect my pension and hopefully die peacefully.

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It is a great pleasure to meet you, Paul.
Call me HP.

@HistoPol Nice to meet you HP. Perhaps some day in real life we can have a drink.

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As I can't decipher anything and as I am a fan of , is IV/ / / , the inventor of in your table?
In particular, is there a connection to the religions?
As the heretic pharaoh was later on expunged from history by his successors and the priests as much as possible, I have often wondered whether this radical concept survived this severe punishment..

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhena

@paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum

en.m.wikipedia.orgAkhenaten - Wikipedia

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Sounds great.

It is the same person, though. 1) changed the name because is a tribute to the "household " god of the pharaohs, ,* who reigned in .

By one account, he broke the stranglehold of the priests of Amun, who had become too powerful, by making the sun god / , the one and only god and him it's sole interlocutor.

Furthermore,...

1)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amun

@paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum

en.m.wikipedia.orgAmun - Wikipedia

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"Akhenaten founded and moved his dynastic government to, , referred to as either , El-Amarna, or Tell el-Amarna by modern scholars." 2)

The new and the new capital did not survive the 's death.
His likely son, , born , moved the capital back to and reinstated the 2) priesthood.3)

Both...

2)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten

en.m.wikipedia.orgAten - Wikipedia

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...pharaohs are fascinating figures.

"Akhenaten's 1) monuments were dismantled and hidden, his statues were destroyed, and his name excluded from lists of rulers compiled by later pharaohs." 2)

He is also known as the .

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1)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amun

en.m.wikipedia.orgAmun - Wikipedia

@HistoPol @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum Hubby and I actually got to see a lot of which you speak a few years back. We took a cruise of Greece, Italy, and Egypt. The port of Cairo/Alexandria and went to the valley of the kings, pyramids, sphinx. I would recommend it to anyone if they can.

@HistoPol @paninid @Outmazi @Beachbum I started with the Pew Religious Landscape Study 2014 Questionnaire Code Book. I then marched through the code book asking Bard/Gemini to provide the Founder/Leader, Year of Founding, City of Founding, Latitude of City, Longitude of City. I got tired when prompting for Parents of Founder and their religions. Also was collecting Foundational texts. I was waiting until AI could read and work on my spreadsheet autonomously.