Should we re-brand the “rest of the Fediverse” as “Mastodon+”?
@fediversenews I don’t know how Mastodon gGmbh would feel about Calckey or Friendica being referred to as “Mastodon+”.
But it intrigues me.
Someone is going to seriously take Akkoma, bolt it to Mastodon’s front end, and sell it as “Mastodon+”.
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social They're pretty serious about defending their trademark, aren't they?
And, I mean, as they should be. They don't want to lose it.
@atomicpoet @fediversenews It also intrigues me how everything is mastodon, just like every song is named Megalovania
@atomicpoet getting "this image requires a gold account" vibes here
@atomicpoet Pleroma used to do that with Glitch's variant of the Mastodon front end
huge improvement over the native Pleroma front end, tbh
@atomicpoet @fediversenews I think the enhanced versions of Mastodon feels more like Mastodon+(+), while Calckey or Frendica would be Rust or Go.
(Trying out calckey, to see how it goes. But it’s feels like a much “more” product. If I really like it I hope my server could convert over to it in the future. I’m not terribly married to Mastodon, the fediverse is the secret sauce.)
@atomicpoet @fediversenews They own the trademark, so....
@atomicpoet@mastodon.social @fediversenews@venera.social
irl i have always done that tbh
For the record: Hubzilla is from 2012. When Mastodon was launched, Hubzilla had already been around for a whopping four years. AFAIK, Hubzilla adopted #ActivityPub around the same time as Mastodon and not because Mastodon used it. Even when Hubzilla was created, then still being a fork of Mike's own #Friendica and named Red, it had a set of features that outclassed 2023's Mastodon by magnitudes.
So no, Hubzilla is not another Mastodon knock-off, nor has it ever jumped upon the Mastodon bandwagon. In fact, the Hubzilla devs refuse to let themselves be bullied into doing things Mastodon's own, non-standard ways just because Mastodon has the most users and instances.
Also, while Mastodon switched to ActivityPub as its base protocol, Hubzilla stuck to Mike's own #Zot from 2011 which, in turn, has features that many wish ActivityPub had. On Hubzilla, ActivityPub is an add-on, an optional one no less.
And here I thought we were talking about how to help random prospective users grok the existence of micro/mini blogging options beyond Mastodon in the Fediverse.
If it might hurt someone's feelings for a few minutes, I guess we should just drop it...