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@JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs that does not work for those who bring some value beyond pure code. Brainstorms, knowledge sharing, pair programming etc does not work well from the remote.

@mudasobwa
That may be the case for you personally, but it can't be generalised. I have been working remote for the past three years. I don't write code for work, most of my time is spent in meetings, including highly technical ones. By any indicator used by my employer, I have been very productive. My not being physically present has not had any negative effect on my organisation.

@JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs

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@wim_v12e
I never said KPI cannot be high though. I said, literally, “brainstorming, knowledge sharing, pair programming etc” would have suffered.

@JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs

@mudasobwa
OK, that may be so in your case. Me and my team, we do all these things on line with no detriment.
@JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs

@wim_v12e @mudasobwa @JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs
Hello, which tools do you use for meetings, sharing documents and communicating? I'm genuinely curious, because my experience with Teams has been nothing less than painstaking...
I looked at Mattermost, seems a good solution, but I didn't test it in real conditions.
Thank you for your insight :).

@mudasobwa @wim_v12e @JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs

Brainstorming, knowledge sharing, pair programming, retrospectives, code reviews, etc are different but not necessarily worse or better; it all depends -- on the team, the timing, the project, etc.

I was a huge remote retro skeptic until I discovered a really good shared whiteboard app for the purpose -- i used MetroRetro, but here'a a link to several others if you're intrigued
medium.com/productpeople/the-5

Product PeopleThe 5 Best Free Online Retrospective Tools for Your TeamBy Friedrich Politz

@mudasobwa @wim_v12e @JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs Those things are literally my job and I've done BETTER remote. Maybe you would have suffered at those things, that doesn't make it true for all.

@revjorobertson

> I've done BETTER remote

Says who?

Apparently, I’ve never heard from a lecturing professor somewhat like “Yeah, not hearing a class and not seeing faces, looks and gestures of my students makes me teach them better.”

I am talking about not-yet-solved problems like “create and implement domain-specific algebra,” not about brainstorming decisions of whether the commit button should be green or red.

@wim_v12e @JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs

@mudasobwa @revjorobertson @wim_v12e @JonnyT @mac @thomasfuchs That's a funny example because a lecture/workshop is about to start in the next room. By any metric I can think of, the move from in-person instruction to online instruction has been a boon for everyone involved.

Mind you, this instructor has held firmly onto her IP from the beginning, so she's not going to be made redundant by her own recordings.