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@smallcircles

Friendly reminder:

People, stop using , , and other Apps that make YOU the product!

There are already so many right-wing governments.

You compromise your current or at least future security (e.g. profiling using LLMs.)

Use or instead.







your Android phone

Data collection comparison of messenger services (found on the web):

@HistoPol @smallcircles You can't use original Signal on the degoogled devices due to the "hardcoded" google-services dependencies in the app code.
Okay, there are some modded Signal versions with google crap removed, but still that's a "third-party" work - you can't be sure of what exactly is in the code inside. There's no warranty that someone doesn't compromised the app code. We have a few good example of troianised apps in the Samsung and Huawei store with over a million counted downloads.

@MartinBe

Thanks for pointing this out.
An alternative app must run on Android and Apple to be acceptable, non-exclusive for the general public.
For me, not fond if the and its data practices and lock-in policies, will not be a solution in its current version, then.

I think I read that doesn't suffer from this issue?

@smallcircles

@HistoPol @MartinBe
Signal do provide an apk directly downloadable in their website. You can get it here. https://signal.org/android/apk/
This version auto updates without depending on Google playstore and look like is the version used by people on degoogled phones.
I have personally not tried it though.
The other option is using the signal fork Molly (https://molly.im). The version named molly-foss is what you will need.
Signal MessengerSignal Android APKAdvanced users with special needs can download the Signal APK directly here.

@gorky @HistoPol 2/2 Luckily there is a workaround. You can use patched signal fork called "Langis" together with the ntfy (alternative notification system/api) and extra "for signal" patched microG version. Such combo will allow you to have and use 100 percent identical in the terms of functionality signal on the degoogled devices and your account won't be banned.

langis.cloudfrancois.fr/

langis.cloudfrancois.frSignal Without GCM/FCMA version of Signal without Google/Firebase Cloud Messaging dependency

@MartinBe @gorky @HistoPol

It doen´t matter which version/fork you use from Signal!

Since Signal's entire traffic runs over the clouds of Amazon, Google, Microsoft & Cloudflare.

All US services can pick up your meta data directly from there, thanks to the CloudACT:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLOUD_Ac

Only Threema does NOT store any metadata nor IP-Adresses.

en.wikipedia.orgCLOUD Act - Wikipedia

Thank you very much for pointing this out. This was exactly what the comparison table seemed to be "telling" me and what I read (indirectly) in a couple of articles.

Not sure about Telegram, as the operational server is in the UAE, and this has already caused some issues with foreign intelligence services, who did not seem to get the data they wanted, but authoritarian regimes are definitely no better.

There is, however, another Swiss and a French solution,...

@Pabamiti @MartinBe @gorky

HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴

@Pabamiti @MartinBe @gorky

...further down the TL that has not been assessed yet in this respect, which still might be an alternative, apart form the distributed solutions.