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@arstechnica "Peloton reduces vale of used Peloton machines by nearly $100."

Fixed that for you.

@arstechnica Honestly, had to double check this wasn't post from The Onion.

@arstechnica What a way to encourage new subscribers! Hell they should be offering a one month free promotional thing. People who stopped subscribing and turned their Peloton into clothing racks sell it and convert new people into customers. Sounds like an everybody wins proposition. I was under the impression their margins on the bikes sucked. Subscriptions are just printing money.

@arstechnica give me a dumb bike machine. I can turn on the DVD player or stream music while I bike, and I don't pay for it.

@arstechnica This is called “Swirling The Bowl” in tech speak!

@arstechnica subscription everything is the biggest farce pushed on to the public. And the constant micro-service updates being pushed on us changing the interface every couple of weeks to justify those subscriptions is utter B.S.

@arstechnica

I never underestimate Peloton to hit a new low.

I was a once happy customer until they raised their subscription fees. Now I warn anyone who inquires about the bike to stay clear if they don't want to have high on-going fees.

I still can't fathom why they don't have a cheaper subscription tier for the bike, for those who don't want live classes. Seems like a no-brainer. They charge way too much if you just want to ride the bike on your own. It's $240/yr or nothing.

By the way, without a subscription, they go out of their way to offer only the absolutely most basic functionality on the bike-- for what they call a 'free ride'

And after all the years I've owned the bike, they have not once tried to regain me as a subscription customer with any kind of deal.

Greed.

@Starcade @arstechnica

Sounds like they're throwing away money by limiting their audience with that expensive subscription. A tiered subscription system sounds like a better idea.

What exactly do you get for that subscription? Can you use the bike without it?

And maybe also an interesting perspective: can it be hacked to enable more functionality?

@mcv @arstechnica

When you pay the subscription you get access to both live and non-live classes for the bike, as well as yoga. There's tracking of your daily/monthly/yearly progress. You can integrate with Facebook. There's a GREAT feature where you can ride through drone videos from all over the world all at various lengths. For example, you can ride through the Grand Canyon or the streets of Paris. When you ride through videos, you can compare yourself to others who have gone through that course. This is the one feature I would like! There's riding games.

When you let your subscription expire, everything goes away. You can only ride and see your current time/calories/ resistance which is no longer recorded. By the way, the bike cannot be used without an internet connection. It still updates itself with system software, and occasionally fails, which renders the bike useless until you perform a factory reset.

They make it as miserable as possible.

@Starcade @arstechnica

So if you've got an internet disruption, you can't use it at all? That's bad.

I can understand the games and drone stuff requires a subscription, but simply using it to exercise shouldn't require internet, and tracking your performance over time shouldn't cost $50/month.

@arstechnica Abso-fuggin-lutely not. Not even if it was $10, but $95!? WHERE did they pull that number from? Insanity.

@arstechnica I already posted this on the other thing but why everyone gotta copy the worst of the big corpos and not the best

@arstechnica Peloton was at the bottom of my lists of exercise options lol. I guess completely off my list is the next move..?

@arstechnica And that’s why I didn’t buy a Peloton. My Sunny has an app but it’s completely optional and I never use it.