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@iinac -- It uses a lot less energy because the model is a lot smaller, very likely through curation of the data before the model was created.

The "cost" they are referring to is the amount of electricity and green house gasses it created to make the multi-dimensional model.

It neglects the "cost" of human work being done before that point to curate and validate all the data going into that AI model.

@jeffowski @iinac @blogdiva

> It neglects the "cost" of human work being done before that point to curate and validate all the data going into that AI model.

That is a cost for #wikipedia that would have welcomed such contribution. Otherwise that is a plain and simple added-value to the companies, and countries taking part in this, so called, curation.

@aziz @iinac @blogdiva --

#AI #DeepSeek #GenerativeAI #AIisTheft

"Curation" does not solve the "THEFT" issue with #AI and #GenerativeAI

A Sustainable AI future includes AI companies having teams in the real world searching for new art and new science to validate and add to their models, through LICENSING or PAYING ROYALTIES to use that data from the artists and scientists.

@jeffowski @aziz @iinac @blogdiva At the scales of data required to train the models a licensing agreement and financial transaction for every piece of data isn’t possible. Not enough people or time to do it. Which is a solid case for prohibiting it altogether by my lights.

@daedalean --

Offer a better solution then.

The "scale" you are talking about is getting smaller and smaller every day based on the computing power we have, so discounting it based on that alone is absolute bullshit and defeatist.

Nihilism is a bad look. Don't take us down with you.

I worked in the iTunes Royalties team for a bit when I was at Apple and the amount of music on that platform DWARFS the nearest competitors combined. It has been done before.

@aziz @iinac @blogdiva

Daedalean

@jeffowski @aziz @iinac @blogdiva prohibition of these activities is my alternative. Passing laws to protect your rights to what you produce is not nihilism by any stretch of the imagination.

@daedalean -- "Prohibition of these activities is my alternative."

Prohibition of a current model of royalties and licensing that is alive and well for music at that humongous scale being applied to other groups to ensure economic survival of the people creating the value and wealth for the #AI companies?

@aziz @iinac @blogdiva