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@rushraptor@babka.social @futurebird @john The difference between this and tumblr is that it's participatory, at least theoretically.

Jesse

@rushraptor@babka.social @futurebird @john Like, you could imagine a fediverse populated with Ayn Rand acolytes, focused on decentralization in a more bitcoiny way. Decentralization isn't inherently left. It is inherently utopian I would say, and inherently a political project. And the people here (not Gab or TruthSocial) happen to be overwhelmingly left of center, at least by US standards. So that flavors the utopia.

There is a big gap between what a lefty values in decentralization and what your Rand fans value.

“decentralized” isn’t what excites me— I’m about the emergent ideas that thrive when you start with decentralization.

Twitter was too democratic (super small d) to be allowed to survive. Any nobody could say something to the “somebodys” of the world and if it resonated? it became impossible to ignore. That was intolerable for the people who have systematically dismantled that site.

@futurebird

I still remember when Twitter was new, and dinosaurs roamed the earth: My employer decided to make a foray into "social media." They gave us all Twitter accounts. I posted a comment on something, I don't remember what. When the "chief" read my comment, it happened to appear "below" some manager's PR comment in the chief's feed. I was immediately reprimanded and told to take my comment down because it appeared to contradict what the manager said, just based on the position in the chief's feed, even though my comment was independent of the manager's comment.

My opinion of Twitter at the time was that it sucked; and my opinion now is that it sucks so bad, it ought to be swallowed into a black hole and the information it contains only briefly burst forth when the universe ends.

@futurebird I agree that Twitter gave regular people too much access to power to be allowed to live, but I don't think the folks who are benefiting from its decline are competent enough to wreck it as thoroughly as Musk has done by accident

@futurebird

> Any nobody could say something to the “somebodys” of the world and if it resonated?

If it resonated you got shadowbanned like in the arab spring ..

@misc @rushraptor @futurebird yeah, I think that Ayn Rand world does actually exist, in federated space and things like Nostr.

Diversity, free speech and free software is "left", actually anarcho left. And it's anti-establishment.

Also GAFAM is US monopoly on peoples data so resistance from europe is/was more likely. As someone just said "left for the US".

That's democratic center in europe. This coding community in part is driven/supported by the CCC (chaos computer club) people and that's intellectual community nerds.

@misc @rushraptor @futurebird @john

@misc @rushraptor @futurebird @john
The first part of your post basically describes nostr. Ironically, the Fediverse structure pretty well matches the “utopia” dreamed up by some ancaps of privately-managed microstates where people freely decided where to participate based on costs vs services rendered —this is basically the instances we have here.
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@misc @rushraptor @futurebird @john yet you'll find most ancaps sneer at the Fediverse with mostly unfounded dismissals, and I'm quite convinced that's due to a combination of cognitive dissonance and the fact that this was largely created and supported by people they despise, who were ready to isolate their attempt t into boring echo chambers.

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