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California - the world's 5th largest economy, a populous and strongly progressive region of the country it's still currently a part of and a Pacific-oriented entity - really should secede. #uspol

@NZedAUS I do not agree. I think we have a moral imperative to work harder to reach the red states.

Too, "populous and strongly progressive," but how much sillly-con vally money end up in GOP coffers?

No, I am not for fracturing the union, thanks.

@phaedral @NZedAUS

I don't believe we have any moral imperative at all.
They've made their positions clear.

As to whether secession would be a practical option, I don't know (though overall I suspect it isn’t). If it were, at this point I'd be all for it.

@mmalc @NZedAUS I don't expect agreement. Looking to disagree peacefully.

I assume anyone voting for a nazi rapist traitor is not getting enough adequate information. I assume education and engagement are key. I assume the most virulent prejudices can be melted through shared experience, and I come to this opinion through work as an activist and meetings with people who in fact evolved past their former limitations.

But I feel ya, I do.

mmalc

@phaedral @NZedAUS

That's fair, and I'll disagree peacefully (broadly: I don’t believe sufficient are redeemable, or worth the investment to redeem). Thank you for the perspective, though (seriously).

I commend you on your work bringing others past their limitations.

@mmalc @NZedAUS So grateful for this exchange. It's how things are supposed to be. Thanks for being cool!