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(he/him) @tortie @sbb @waeiski Yup :/ @Mer__edith Any chance of diversifying away from AWS? Main reason I brought this up is for anti-Amazon reasons, not privacy issues.
@chiraag @tortie @sbb @waeiski @Mer__edith This is not "the elephant in the room" and neither is deltachat a reasonable alternative. The metadata that delta leaves is *significant* and can be tied to an individual. That's why it is crucial to use a "trusted" mail provider, because delta doesn't use any of the advancements in cryptography of the last decade.
The data traces Signal leaves on AWS is not personal data, the metadata is minimal and they make efforts to reduce it further. AWS is still a problem, but one of Availability (what if Bezos cancels his contract with them?).
Please do not compare them based on where they store the data, if the amount and kind of data stored is very different.
@ljrk @chiraag @tortie @sbb @waeiski @Mer__edith
It is also not clear to me how a compromised #chatmail server could be used for a MITM attack in a verified chat.
In my opinion, the fact that the email system cannot be blocked is also an advantage of #deltachat for activists. Central messengers, no matter how secure they may be, generally have a harder time if a state decides to block them. In addition, email servers are inconspicuous in contrast to, for example, simpleX servers.