Can anyone explain this newbie what "servers" are/mean in here? It took me like 5 minutes to figure out how to log in through the app because of this lol
A link to documentation is fine too.
Sorry about the dumb question
Yeah, on here "server" means an instance, so in your case your server is mastodon.social.
If you need help getting started have a look at https://fedi.tips or feel free to ask.
Hasn’t Mastodon hired a UX designer (yet)? The onboarding is still just SO terrible for common folk - not just Mastodon, other Fedi software too.
The onboarding is similar to choosing an email or phone provider. I think people are able to cope with those?
I know people aren't used to doing that on a social network, but that's the situation on here for very good reasons:
https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers/
If it copied the onboarding of Twitter etc with just one server, you will simply end up with the same problems repeating. The idea of this place is to avoid those problems.
Trust me. It’s not as easy and simple as choosing an email or phone provider. Try handing any Fedi app to a 10th grader and see how they struggle with it.
Hopefully, with more exposure, Threads will fix at least this part.
What's easier about choosing an email provider?
The process is exactly the same, you choose a site to sign up on and sign up.
Threads is not giving us any exposure, it's just trying to scoop up people who came here from Twitter.
But... outlook and gmail are email instances.
The signup process is the same. In fact it's a lot easier on here because you don't need to give any personal info like phone numbers etc.
If you're confused by choice on the Fediverse, surely you would be confused by choice on email?
You’re talking like a ‘nerd’ now. What you say, “Oh it’s so easy” isn’t the same for regular users at home. “Empathize with the user. Try to wear their shoes.” < first line of UX.
/Nerd = techie who understands the nuances. Not saying in an offensive manner.
"Try to wear their shoes."
I spend all my time trying to help non-technical people onto here. I run a website at https://fedi.tips to help non-technical people get onto here.
You still haven't explained how signing up on email is different to signing up on here.
"“Oh it’s so easy” "
I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the same as email.
You spend your hours explaining and writing the ‘HOW TO’ and the WHAT IS of the Fediverse. And then go about explaining people terms like ‘servers’ ‘instances’ etc. A lot of this should not be needed with good UX.
/Not taking anything away from the hard work you have put up.
You're confusing difficult things with unfamiliar things.
Email is not difficult, if you're used to it. That's why it is very widely used. But when email began, there were similar "how to" and "what is" guides published because people weren't used to it yet.
The Fediverse is currently in the same early stages that email was in a long time ago. The similar structure of the Fediverse and email indicates that people will be able to get used to the Fedi the same way they did with email.
You’ve written a lot. Answered to a lot of queries. Commendable. But look, Threads is already here. And here you are, replying to people’s queries while millions (already) have signed up for Threads with no struggle whatsover or asking each other ‘how to use Threads’. Guess what? The Fediverse will miss the train again.
Threads is centralised. It will have exactly the same problems that Twitter has.
It is easier to sign up to a centralised platform, but centralised platforms eventually get into the hands of terrible people who do awful things. In this case, Threads is being MADE by terrible people who do awful things.
If you care about those problems, you should see why the Fediverse has to do things differently.
It's like saying "don't bother with fresh food, millions find McDonalds easier".
@Deus@charcha.cc technically tbh threads is also just an instance. Just that people decided to sign up at threads. But what threads also does is making it more easier to sign up by basically everyone having instagram just needing one click to sign up at threads. Other fedi instances dont have that benefit.
@Deus@charcha.cc at least thats information i gathered. I cant ever federate with threads even if i wanted to or sign up at it. I would simply get banned due to my content breaking their content policies
Server = the website. Also called ‘instance’ out here. Out here = the Fediverse.
e.g. My ‘server’ is charcha.cc or https://charcha.cc. The server you’re on and have signed up to is mastodon.social or https://mastodon.social
@Deus That's so cool! I had no idea about this. I heard of Mastodon being hard to set up some years ago but I came here and signed up and didn't have to set anything up so I was so confused! Now I get it!
@ranshii so you’re ranshii@mastodon.social. I’m rockman@mst.rockman.zip
Even though you are on a different server, I can see your posts because my server can talk to your server. We are not on the same mastodon server, but we’re part of the same network
@rockman Gotcha! This is a new kind of concept for me, a social that works like this, I'm eager to grow familiar with it, thank you!
@LunaDragofelis Thank you so much! This is a very thorough explanation! I appreciate the time you took to give it to me.
@ranshii A server is your local community!
And unlike Discord "servers", it's a literal actual server that your admin runs.
You might hear "instance", same thing. Instance == server.
@topaz Thank you so much for that explanation
@ranshii yeah! Glad I can help!
@ranshii@mastodon.social so you’re ranshii@mastodon.social. I’m rockman@mst.rockman.zip
Even though you are on a different server, I can see your posts because my server can talk to your server. We are not on the same mastodon server, but we’re part of the same network