@krille @phoenix_r_d We've been having extensive discussions about this in various IETF groups, with both Matrix and XMPP folks. We are very open to either adhering to existing standards or helping shape new ones. Sometimes you have to start fresh though, that's exactly what we did with MLS and MIMI. I don't see why this couldn't be repeated for s c2s protocol. Either way, join the working groups and propose your ideas!
@raphaelrobert @phoenix_r_d @krille Is ActivityPub still being considered for MIMI?
https://bifurcation.github.io/mimi-aim/draft-barnes-mimi-aim.html
It is a mature and widely used standard, but at the same time it's a blank slate because it doesn't have e2ee layer yet. Seems like a perfect foundation for developing a next generation of private & secure messaging.
@silverpill @phoenix_r_d @krille No, and I don’t remember that it ever was seriously proposed.
The MIMI documents are here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/mimi/documents/
@raphaelrobert @phoenix_r_d @krille Are you saying that draft-barnes-mimi-aim report is not serious? What is considered a serious proposal then?
@silverpill @phoenix_r_d @krille I’m not saying anything about the content of the draft. I’m saying it hasn’t received a lot of discussion and was never proposed for adoption.
@silverpill @raphaelrobert @phoenix_r_d @krille ActivityPub is actually a poorly designed protocol. Seems like there were no senior engineers in the team at the time of making it. And now it's too late.
@bonkers @raphaelrobert @phoenix_r_d @krille Do you know some other social protocol that organically grew to support millions of users and has more than a hundred of implementations? This is how a well designed protocol looks like.
@silverpill @raphaelrobert @phoenix_r_d @krille are you a software engineer?