"People don’t cheer for chaos when they feel like justice is possible. But right now, what options do they have? The Supreme Court is corrupt, voting feels useless, and the people in power are funded by the very corporations they’re supposed to regulate. Of course, Mangione gets turned into a meme hero—it’s not him they love; it’s the idea of someone finally fighting back" https://www.thegodpodcast.com/p/those-who-make-peaceful-revolution
"John F. Kennedy said, “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable”.
"This is what happens when peaceful revolution is made impossible. You don’t get reforms—you get assassinations, you get chaos, and eventually, you get rebellion.
"When you take away hope, people stop playing by the rules."
@taylorlorenz Given how central a role violence plays in US history and mythos, it's funny to see the amount of pearl-clutching going on when someone uses violence to fight back against a corrupt elite. Whether they like it or not, it's as American as apple pie.
Issue becomes that through acceptance and even celebration of an assassination, we normalize that level of violence.
So then how do ensure the safety of a Fauchi, or Schiff, or AOC, or any of the other dozens of career professionals that Fox News has propagandized as being a corrupt elite who flaunts the rule of law?
@jelgato @taylorlorenz I wonder if you can, sadly.
@jelgato @Jgmeadows @taylorlorenz TBH you could have asked that same question before the UHC killing.
@shsbxheb @Jgmeadows @taylorlorenz
Kind of furthers my point.
If safety is questionable now - what happens when gunning down people* in the street becomes the new normal?
(*specific people, not the everyday victims of #gunviolence that get gunned down in the street daily, you know, the ones we have been conditioned to ignore)
@rob11563 @taylorlorenz does it differ dramatically from US ca. 1980?
@chucker @taylorlorenz Trends in income and wealth inequality https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/01/09/trends-in-income-and-wealth-inequality/
In 1790, they had no television, no streaming services and no TikTok or Instagram. Nowadays, nothing will happen. The people are numb.
I have nothing to add to that paragraph. It encapsulates everything about this situation perfectly.
ETA: In fact, it's a little *too* perfect. I'm starting to wonder if the author really is God....
It's no surprise that when the rules are rigged to benefit the ruling class (who did not get there based on merit) at the expense of everyone else that everyone else is leaning on civil disobedience.
@taylorlorenz I say you really want to shake up the Old, Rigged System? Don't vote for a product of the Old, Rigged System backed by Corporate America's finest Rulling Billionaire Class of Sociopaths. Expect more of the same
@Master_of_Reality @taylorlorenz
At this point, anyone still thinking the Democrats can be relied on to bring any sort of meaningful change or that meaningful change can really be effected by working "within" the system is, to put it charitably, deluding themselves
If real change wasn't to be had when Obama swept to power with a 59-seat Senate majority and a literal mandate for "Change," and if it wasn't to be had after 4 years of Trump culminating in 1/6, then nothing will move them to act.
@taylorlorenz A 2 secs History lesson: France 1788, 2 distinct classes, the uber rich and the uber poor. The former has ever right and orgies out all day, the latter is starving and has no out. There's more of the latter than the former. They get one or 2 capable leaders, their faithful brand new guillotines and make "rivers of blood run in the streets" (actual quote)... change the political regime for ever and build one where "Everyone is equal in rights"...
Any bells ringing yet?
"Voting feels useless" says the country that just voted in a corrupt, fascist strongman.
@taylorlorenz You live in a country that has become Gotham. No wonder some turn to vigilantism, when the US are run by the Penguin, Scarecrow and all the other inmates of Arham Asylum.
@taylorlorenz I detest that the fellow killed the United CEO. Equally I detest that CEOs milk the customers dry and that everybody under the CEO is treated as disposable dirt. Even the company treats the CEO as disposable.
It is very hard to shed any tears over this whole affair.
@taylorlorenz I mean.. The voting feels useless issue is a problem of the people. When Joe Biden won Trump supporters probably felt voting was useless. Losing votes is a part of democracy. But it'd be good if the left wouldn't be so toxic that they lose to someone like * DJT obviously.
@taylorlorenz It's also the fact that Brian Thompson quite literally committed second-degree murder under the laws of New York, probably tens of thousands of counts, but vigilante justice was the only justice he ever needed to fear.
smacks of #accelerationism, imho
@taylorlorenz Well, your entire country voted for high inequality and high murder rate ... again ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_economic_inequality#Crime same in Sweden. People keep voting for it.
@taylorlorenz I fully understand the mindset, but republicans who support luigi drive me completely insane. You're the reason healthcare is this bad, even more than the CEO.
Wish I believed people who thought this is a major thing but it's been a week without even an attempted copycat. I have 0 belief this is anything but a freak occurrence by one guy. At least the memes are fun
That's right, and they can't stop an idea. It's in all of us.