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@itsfoss after 13 years I really don't think systemd is controversial any more... Also, anyone deploying cloud native / containerised services these days almost certainly doesn't know or care what starts the OS services...

@fossrob @itsfoss No, it's still controversial. I've seen people who have a cult-like rejection of systemd and will happily tell you you're evil for recommending a distro that uses it. This has resulted in a fair few debates on the matter in places that allow for such discourse.

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One of the core controversies is the thing's creator, who now works at Microsoft. Don't get me wrong, Microsoft is about as evil as a tech company gets and is completely antithetical to Linux and FOSS, but that doesn't make systemd an inherently bad thing and neither do any of the other points that frequently get brought up.

@fossrob @itsfoss
It doesn't even necessarily violate the Unix philosophy (do one thing and do it well) because it's a large suite of tools, not a hyper complex omni-tool. It's like trying to say LibreOffice violates the Unix philosophy because it has a word processor, spreadsheet, etc. etc.

Since when is the Mastodon character limit so tight?

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@itsfoss

this. even though I don't use systemd anymore I couldn't agree less

also, ordinary people these days would have even less reasons to care about init systems these days

@itsfoss no controversy. If you don't like it don't use it.
The rest of the world has moved on.