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@mntmn Apple already solved this and my muscles are trained on their solution.

@mntmn A gamut of Alt-key combinations, eg. "Alt-'" for æ, "Alt-e e" for é, "Alt-e a" for á, etc. I assume it covers all or most of what europeans need.

@mntmn Furthermore, they have AFAICT used the same mapping for decades so I'd expect a lot of people are used to them.
OT: even when I lived in Denmark and France, I *much* preferred a US-programmer-friendly layout w/Apple's extensions over a regional bizarre layout.

@tommythorn @mntmn Well, mosty western/northern European ... it;s not a solution help for Central-Eastern languages :-(

@jirka @mntmn This is specifically about *european* solutions (the link I replied to only addresses that). Are you talking about Central-Eastern *european* languages?

@tommythorn @mntmn I think yes: Polish, Lithuanian, Czech, Slovak...

@mntmn Ä on the A key? ẞ on the S key? Nah, that's way too consistent for Europe 😉

@mntmn that's awesome. I've been using "US layout with AltGr dead keys" for years, but this one seems even better. Thanks!

@mntmn CapsLock has to go, that is the Compose-key! (which is important to have!)

@mntmn I wish I knew about that a long time ago. I've gotten so used to the macOS keybinding for umlauts (alt+u, a => ä etc) that I even set it up like that on Windows

@mntmn Not a fan of it. Using this keymap for my native Polish is unnecessarily cumbersome. And still idea of character combining as implemented in Linux, is easier to remember. When I need to write ö, I simply press ScrLock (my choice for combination introducer), then "o" then doublequote. Similarly é is ScrLock, then "e", then apostrophe, and so on.

@rastport @mntmn Good points, I agree. It seems the EU keymap also lacks Hungarian double accented vowels Ű/ű and Ő/ő, these are probably available with character composing, but then why not just use composing in the first place for everything? I tend to do that with US-Intl on Mac already. It is a much more "natural" experience of writing Hungarian, than remembering yet another keymap layout. (Because this EU keymap otherwise totally mismatches the national Hungarian keymap of course.)

@chainq @rastport compose is of course the best solution, but for languages like german that only have 3 umlauts, altgr combo is probably just quicker

@mntmn @rastport Hmm, I can see that, yes. It depends on the "complexity" the national characters add on top of some standard English/US/EU thing.

@mntmn @chainq Yes, but on traditional German QWERTZ, ä, ö and ü do not need any qualifier.

In Poland we use US layout and write ą, ć, ę, ł, ń, ó, ś, ż as AltGr + a, c, e, l, n, o, s and z respectively. The only exception is ź, which is AltGr + x.

@mntmn I had no idea that was a thing either.
I fear my muscle memory for the Danish letters æ,ø,å would be too hard to untrain, keeping me from changing...

@borup @mntmn When I'm on a 103-key or reduced equivalent I use fi layout, but when I'm on a 102-key equivalent it's a pain to switch between fi and us to do Swedish and programming (or just shell) and then it's a blessing to have the EurKey layout.

I adjusted to the new layout within a few days, no biggie.