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@benroyce @oliverboehme Do not forget the main architect who gave the shitbag the keys to everything with his 'immunity' and 'official duties' bullshit: #JohnRoberts is the primary villain. He and his cohort of rancid cunts #Alito #Gorsuch #Thomas and #Kavanaugh

@kristen_d @benroyce @oliverboehme Biden could have used the powers Roberts gave him to stop all of this.

I don't blame Biden for being unwilling to be the monster history required at that moment. But still - he could have prevented all of this.

@Amoshias @kristen_d @benroyce @oliverboehme Yes, he could have jailed Trump, jailed the Supreme Court. Or assassinated them. But he didn't want to the one to end America by making himself king. And sure, that only gave us a couple more months of America before Trump ended it, but
I understand Biden wanting to go out still the leader of a democratic nation.

@cherold @Amoshias @kristen_d @oliverboehme

biden was banking on the american people showing the fuck up and voting

biden didn't abandon america because he didn't bring a machine gun to the supreme court

americans abandoned america because "well biden should have done this and that and blah blah blah and that's my rationale for not doing shit, even the easiest fucking thing"

your leaders suck, america, BECAUSE YOU SUCK

@benroyce @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme I'm going to diverge from you here. (Not the last line though, we're in lockstep there.)

Simply sitting around and expecting Americans to vote for responsible kings until the end of time is not a rational plan. Biden needed to take action to make himself NOT A KING. That would have required him to do horrifying things, and he's not the man to have met that challenge.

@Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme

agreed 100%

we can't just shame nonvoters, we need to give them something to believe in

i would like to think people have enough brains to understand strategy, but i understand cold calculation is not good enough

we need a real lefist candidate to put the fire in their belly

@benroyce @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme

We also need to recognize that to date, there is no personal financial incentive for Democrats in Congress to BE the opposition. They’ll keep doing what they’re doing, as long as the cash continues flowing into their pockets.

The only exceptions are people like Bernie Sanders and AOC, who don’t take corporate payouts. And that group is a truly minimal slice of the Congress pie.

@chessert @benroyce @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme and should really create a new party IYAM

@cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme

it's far easier to take over the democrats from within

another party, if it ever eclipses the dems, you're looking at many elections of GOP dominance until then

because you've divided the left and we have a stupid fucking voting system

and in that time period MAGA will just kill democracy altogether

i'm simply pointing at the path of least resistance:

take over the dems

far far easier than another party

@benroyce
@cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme
Yes. Take over the Dems, & start by ousting Schumer. Universal public Healthcare. Taxes on billionaires. There are a whole quiver full of good progressive positions.

The discussion about getting non-voters to vote is worth the ether it is written on. Paid time off, election day holiday + compulsory voting might get more to the polls. Abolish Citizens United. Get pacs, high dollar donors & corporations out of politics.

@mizblueprint @cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme

"The discussion about getting non-voters to vote is worth the ether it is written on"

not a single fucking thing you listed is going to happen until nonvoters vote

it is never the case you get what you want, then you vote

it is always the case you vote, then you get what you want

@benroyce
@cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme
I've knocked on tens of thousands of doors for my own campaigns, and for other candidates. I did not knock on doors where registered voters had not voted in the past 4 presidential elections, and had never voted in local elections. With a universe of 18k out of 27k, I only talked to those likely voters. Overcoming non-voter inertia is a big problem. I can enumerate the excuses I've heard, if you like.

@mizblueprint @benroyce @cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme " Overcoming non-voter inertia is a big problem." Especially if no one tries to talk to them...

@CStamp
@benroyce @cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme
I think overcoming non-voter inertia is a Party problem. Individual candidates don't have the resources to persuade people to vote. Precinct Party level outreach can work - repeated encouragement from a known neighbor. Debunking myths like "voting doesn't matter" or "...but I don't want to be called for jury duty", or "I don't have time".

@CStamp @benroyce @cmthiede @chessert @Amoshias @cherold @kristen_d @oliverboehme
Yes, talking at the door can work. Phone outreach can work. GOTV (Get Out The Vote) workers need to be persistent. I started precinct walking & GOTV about 35 years ago.