@reiver@mastodon.socialWow, SpaceBar (formlery called "Fosscord") looks a lot like Discord.
SpaceBar is an open-source alternative to Discord.
@reiver Does it federate though?
https://revolt.chat/ is also an open source Discord clone, but doesn't federate, so you end up with a single super server anyway, so the open source and self-hostable part becomes rather moot.
I don't know. I just noticed that git repo, and wondered.
Why do you think you would end up with a single super server? It is enough when the client can connect to multiple servers at once. Your chats would be on your servers, and mine on mine, and each of our clients would connect to both.
Why would you even want to federate a chat server? It only complicates things – you do no longer have an authoritative timeline, and you invite spam the way Google Hangouts died in spam before it defederated random Jabber servers.
@collectifission @reiver have No Account at all and use oauth2 against your fedi account of choice
@reiver this rules and we should do it more imo
@reiver my biggest problems with open source projects using Discord for discussion (and worse, docs and file sharing for releases) are that you have to have a Discord account to see it, and it isn't indexed by search engines, and when Discord inevitably dies or gets acquired and mutated into something unrecognizable, all those projects will lose their institutional memory. Self-hosting solves the last one, for sure...but, I wonder about the other problems.
@reiver I'll mention I've been recommending Discourse as an alternative whenever anyone asks me (which is only occasionally, though sometimes I blurt it out even when not asked, like now). It solves all those problems and it is operated by good people who understand Open Source and community better than most. It is technically and ethically sound, even if you don't self-host. And, you can always get your data out (whether individually or as a whole community).
@reiver Seems pretty new and very basic Infra Configuration. Let's say compared to Matter most. Only VMs. No Docker or K8S.
@reiver that's pretty dope
@reiver I was looking at spacebar a few weeks back. It's certainly troubling that the developers are using Discord for their own internal communications.
@reiver I thought the project died, I installed it and went to use it and realized it had been months without any commit to their repo so I stopped using it. I'm glad it's been revived.
@reiver Never new about it.
It says "decentralized" but I don’t see much. How is it decentralized? Federated?
I think by "decentralized" they more or less mean that — anyone can run their own SpaceBar server.
So, decentralized like the Web is decentralized.
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But, I don't recall their docs saying they were "federated". Did you see that somewhere?
No no they don’t, that was my point