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Wulfy

Many of the products of human thought are invisible to the creatures on Earth as a result of technological innovation...

...With each passing year humankind moves toward the ability to create its own reality. First, practical telepathy. Next the ability to project created imagery without supporting substrates. After a time the ability to parse the fabric of reality. Then a purpose created place where whatever remains human can exist with the power of consciousness alone. At that point, though still a separate consciousness, humanity will have become invisible to the world from which it leapt.

Through a door made of light an entrance and an exit. What will humanity do then?"

~ Ghost in Waiting

#consciousness#reality#quantummechanics
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Ideal CH

> I felt that Einstein’s intellectual superiority over Bohr, in this instance, was enormous; a vast gulf between the man who saw clearly what was needed, and the obscurantist.
— Bell

Mind that the obscurantist folklore has been dominant till today.

What does it tell about academia if a whole scientific community can shield itself from rational debate for so long?

#Solvay1927#QM#QuantumPhysics
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Marcel politisch

Hallo! 👋
Mit einem mehr als 3 Jahre alten Account (und ebenso langer Fediverse-Aktivität) bin ich nicht mehr richtig #NeuHier.
Aber ich fange jetzt erst an, ihn aktiv zu nutzen und möchte mich daher hier kurz vorstellen.

Ich bin ein Mittvierziger auf dem Land in #Niederbayern. Ingenieur und beschäftigt in einer niederen Managementfunktion (u.a. #QM #qualitatsmanagement)

Hier werde ich vor allem politisch posten (#DEPOL vor allem).

Schubladen sind doof, aber für eine grobe Einstufung:
Ich bin (gemäßigt) links und progressiv, wahrscheinlich ganz gut zwischen ordoliberal und sozialliberal einzustufen (in letzter Zeit verschiebt es sich eher zum sozialen).
Oder anders formuliert: Kant's kategorischen Imperativ könnte ich mir auch gut im Grundgesetz vorstellen 😬

Wahrscheinlich hätte ich mich bei der 70er-Jahre-FDP wohlgefühlt, heute ist diese Partei für mich eine der schlimmsten.

Ich bemühe mich meist um eine gewisse Differenziertheit (aka "für alle was zum Hassen 😜") und versuche gerne, andere Positionen zu verstehen, kann aber "bei Bedarf" durchaus auch polemisch werden.

Mein bisheriger Hauptaccount war @gorobar@rollenspiel.social - ursprünglich für das Rollenspiel-Hobby erstellt, aber zuletzt sehr in Anderes gerutscht.
Mal sehen, wie sich das für mich hier mit dem Zusatzaccount etabliert, ich werde versuchen, diesen Vorstellungspost nach und nach zu verbessern.

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mj

@jan

This is an important point to keep in mind. A good find from an unsuspected source. Do you have a specific link to it? I found several that it could be.

I've worked from the angle that w/o the '3rd way', the binary models used for #QM can't get the correct answers all the time, IE only probabilistically.

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mj

@minouette

If you do some basic experimentation with prisms, you will conclude that Newton based an entire theory on shoddy, incomplete work that only works in one specific arrangement. You get different answers as you make the required variations (testing your own ideas).

Besides these other empirical, contradictive results, we can see these errors in other spectra, such as most rainbows, color theory, pottery color changes per kiln temperature (black body), or even the lack of 'green planets'.

It's not that we should not have phenomenological and physiological models as well, it's that if #evolution has brought about certain phenomena within the range of perception, then it is driven by the #physics that co-existed during that development. These things are not separate; there are no vacuums in the environments where these interactions & change take place.

If you're asking me if "nature or nurture", " #color theory or color #science", " #QM interpretation A or Z", "music theory or acoustics", etc, my response is 'wrong question' (false dichotomies).

You're welcome to set your own standards, of course, but linear toy models are not satisfactory to me, even if they were once considered marvels (or #paradox). They do play an important role in our progress, but all have expiration dates, where nature demands that they mature at some point.

Light passing through a prism showing 4 contiguous colors, contrary to Newtons model where 7 are the fundamental and only result.
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mj

@xChaos

The conspiratorial title matches the content. All interpretations of #QM start with untenable assumptions, that are taken as a compromise that's "still better than X" (any other interpretation), so it ends like competing religions would.

Those future 'quantum computers' will only ever be as good as the theory someone might come up with to complete #quantum mechanics. (No one is really even working on that!)

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mj

@ScienceCommunicator
Those are pretty heavy questions! My response to each, in order:

1. Yes.
2. Mostly a moving object, but anything could be turned into art, for someone.
3. I think art is subjective, but also a mostly human perception.

Getting harder..

4. I think there are universal properties, like liquid or gas states, but the description of 'wet' is much more limited to near human experience.

OTOH, us trying to create descriptive categories outside of our perception capacity feels fairly pointless. While at the same time, we get easily hung up on those perceptions sometimes, and it blocks deeper understanding of the universe.

"Vibrating object". Great example.

Is it sound when outside our hearing frequency range?

Some people equate sound with our human centric norm only, so you get things like the tree falling in the woods, far from human ears, or 'no one can hear you in the vacuum of space' meme.

An apparently smaller group, myself included, allows for our perception to be a subset of a larger, more general description. However, I don't think science has gone far enough in that direction.

I think I agree with what you said about #QM, which also what is wrong with it, and where it is the most incomplete.

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