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@mcc@mastodon.social met at Atom's funeral

@mcc what abt pico/nano

@mcc does gedit just wander through the background, presence otherwise unacknowledged or touched on

@vwbusguy@mastodon.online @violator@mathstodon.xyz @mcc@mastodon.social In one scene, gedit is shown without the nametag, leading to fan speculation that it's actually Pluma.

@mcc What about Sam and Acme? Joe? Does anybody remember Eve?

@tevo @mcc had several good years with Eve and TPU, and knew her mom Edt.

@mcc Let's not leave out Micro, the moody adolescent https://micro-editor.github.io/

@mcc Zawinski's Law says "every program attempts to expand until it can read mail". Pico is the counterexample.
#pine

@mcc EINE and ZWEI are Emacs's twin cousins who live elsewhere.

DrRacket has a PhD in early childhood math education.

@mcc

And then there's always Joe, who comes off as a cheerful working class Joe, but who turns out to be a genderfluid chameleon.

@mcc yeah it feels like both vim and emacs in this context are more infatuated with their own ideas than with the outside world

@glyph @ireneista *drawing of vim and her younger sister neovim glaring at each other. They look almost identical. Vim is wearing a Python T-shirt and Neovim is wearing a Lua T-shirt. They both look legitimately angry*

@mcc @glyph @ireneista I actually would like to see these drawn out.

I ran across the "OS-Tan" and "PL-Tan" manga-fications of operating systems and programming languages into magical girls or families thereof. Editors seem totally fair game.

@ireneista @mcc when they were figuring themselves out, the concept of discoverability hadn't been invented yet :P

@ireneista @mcc Sed is a taciturn spanner wielder who quietly fixes broken stuff when you aren't looking.

@mcc mcedit? :)

@mcc Ok I laughed.

@mcc Does that make the human embodiment of vi an escapologist?

@mcc I mean, technically you can do anything and everything without ever touching ctrl, by using Meta instead (no, not the artist formery known as Facebook, the key)

@mcc A joke about Ctrl in Emacs? It’s a Super joke, but isn’t it also a bit Meta? Maybe we should Shift to an Alt joke instead. Something a little less Hyper-specific?

@undees @mcc
You should go ask Bucky.

@mcc I had picured TECO as an older relative of Emacs, had a long beard and spoke an inscrutable tongue. Nobody ever seemed to have actually /met/ them, but they heard stories. But I guess that works, too.

@not2b @tevo @mcc

Me too!

Teco was the first program for which I heard the joke: “If you type your name into it, you’ll never get a syntax error, but you might not like what it does.”

@not2b @tevo @mcc I've used TECO on the PDP-8, -10, -11, -12, and the 6502. I suppose I do have a little nostalgia for it, especially Stevens TECO v124 on the -10, but I wouldn't really want to use it for anything now.

@not2b @tevo @mcc Well, the ESCape echoes as a dollar sign, but ASCII 44 is not the same as ASCII 33.

(On PDP-10 systems, we think in octal, of course.)

@alderson @not2b @tevo @mcc And originally TECO used "altmode" rather than escape. At the time, altmode and escape were octal 175 and 176, from before ASCII gained the lower case and symbols in columns 6 and 7. The models 33 and 35 Teletypes had an altmode key that sent 175, and the TOPS-10 monitor performed translations of 175 and 176 to octal 033 (Escape from the 1965 revision of the ASCII standard).
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