After 20 years as a happy yet increasingly grumpy #Gnus user, it looks like I’m finally making the big jump to #mu4e!
I can still switch back, but so far the experience has been very good: everything is snappy, the UI is clear and simple yet has all the important things in place—contexts are a clean replacement for ‘gnus-posting-styles’, bookmarks are awesome, and search is such an incredible feature. :-)
I wrote a post on how I use #emacs #gnus to interface with notes from the #iOS notes app (when IMAP is used for storing notes instead of iCloud) - also talking about how to create a note from an arbitrary buffer or region.
https://me.literatelisp.eu/my-gnus-workflow-for-working-with-ios-notes.html
TIL (more like realized than learned) that I can just use #gnus to access (it’s just an imap folder) and edit (gnus-summary-edit-article) notes from the #iOS notes app as long as it uses a mailserver (and not awful iCloud) to store them. That’s pretty neat - as I have this habit of jotting down notes on my phone when my computer’s not around/i’m on the go/away from emacs.
@allisonchinart Beautiful! That second line reminds me of the old #gnu #emacs / #gnus logo!
I was today years old when i learned that i could use https://gmane.io for high-volume mailing lists like guix-patches and bug-guix if i’m already using gnus instead of subscribing to them and cluttering my mailserver
#emacs folks, do you have an email spam handling config you're happy with with?
While I'm a fan of #email management via #emacs #mu4e, I kinda gave up pretty soon on integrating any sort of spam handling. Honestly didn't put much effort into it.
Today, I mostly rely on email provider spam filtering, and pick up whatever sifts through myself from mu4e. I'd love to minimise this further if possible.
It looks like the best option for replacing fetchmail is mbsync/isync. Naturally this is not a straight-forward solution, because just like offlineimap, mbsync wants to sync with a Maildir setup, whereas fetchmail was talking to the local smtp server.
Such a maildir setup means you end up with one file per mail. Gnus supports this via the nnmaildir backend, whereas nnfolder uses a single mbox file per group (where Gnus splits up incoming message into different configured groups).
So, if I see this right, I would basically not only have to migrate from fetchmail away but also find a way to convert all my nnfolder data to maildir. I don't see any easy way to do this.
I think ideally the solution would be to find a fetchmail alternative that handles IMAP and POP the correct way and would also just talk to the local smtp server. This would mean not having the "keeping local and IMAP in sync" feature, but reflecting local changes back to the IMAP server is not important to me. #gnus #emacs
@emacs 2/2
Probably not that useful a reply, but anyway: I host email myself using Postfix and Dovecot on a Debian server on my hat shelf.
I'm still using Gnus for email¹ - maybe it is better at mixing because it's a newsreader first and email program second, so the metaphor is news.
Or maybe I'm just a teensy bit insane in the old membrane.
¹ And a bunch of other stuff, of course.
very _not_ surprised that this was written by an old Emacs-related name I remember from years ago - https://koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/about/ - I've gotta try this on the weekend.
To all users of #CLI apps to manage their emails, like #neomutt, #gnus, #notmuch, or #mu4e.
What email provider would you recommend that works well with our good old #terminal based applications? I recently learned that the CEO of #proton has decided to praise some authoritarian leader in the USA and I'm considering switching to another mail provider. Also, even though I appreciated the fact that I could make #mu and mu4e work with their bridge app, there were some issues, like the fact it tangled with messages (see https://github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge/issues/119).
I'm considering going back to Posteo or maybe switch to Mailbox which seems to offer interesting features. Do anyone knows good alternative that are somewhat privacy focused? Having the option to use a personal domain name would also be great, so I can stop switching email adresses.
@ericsfraga I’m buried in emails at work. I’ve tried #mu4e and now I’m happy with #notmuch, although composing and forwarding emails is better in #mu4e. I even gave #gnus a try, but it felt a bit intimidating—maybe I didn’t quite get it; it was actually the first one I tried. I might give it another chance. Any tips? 
Thanks in advance
@ericsfraga oh thats cool. I use protonmail as my email so I don't think I could get that working with #gnus
@ericsfraga Thats cool. I don't know what #gnus is. I will check it out!
Ah #GNUS .. My nemesis, when you tick a file by accident and you got no clue how to untick it cause Gnus is just all jargon, and wonkiness.
Led Zeppelin buzzing in my ears and some routine check of inbox staring!
