#Neostumbler collects the data in the first place. While databases like #MLS (Backups), #OpenCellID and also Apples exist and are easily available, #BeaconDB only uses newly gathered data.
Neostumbler takes the real GPS location together with nearby Wifis, Cell Towers and Bluetooth beacons. These datasets get uploaded, and shortly after, clients like #geoclue or #microG that use BeaconDB, can find a location there.
Neostumbler shows an overlay map for existing data
Still have this question open. Why does #COSMIC require #geoclue
https://github.com/fsvm88/cosmic-overlay/issues/8
This needs to be optional IMHO.
Do you have a recommendation for a #linux tool to navigate a heavy #truck (no "normal" car!) via #gps offline?
I tried #pureMaps but miss the adjustment for car size parameters. GPS can be provided via #geoclue or #gpsd sufficiently.
I just need map display and route planning - ideally an option which is aware of obstacles like low bridges and weight limits on particular roads and show alerts.
In case it matters: I will be on german roads.
Read this very interesting blog about #location services in #Fedora #Linux. It also explains how to set up #geoclue to use the @beacondb services.
I already did that previously, and my Fedora laptop can find its location pretty precise without having a #GPS device.
Of course I collected a lot of measurements and uploaded them to #beaconDB to make this possible.
https://fedoramagazine.org/the-state-of-the-location-permission-on-fedora-linux-in-2025/
Have you ever collected data for #OpenCellID #MozillaLocationService #WiGLE or #BeaconDB ?
Please retoot!
@beacondb@mapstodon.space @beacondb@lemmy.dbzer0.com
@WiGLEnet
@BrodieOnLinux
80.000 Aufzeichnungen für @BeaconDB #BeaconDB !
Die meisten mit Neostumbler, noch mehr Mobilfunktürme mit #TowerCollector!
Einige Bahnfahrten mit Handy am Fenster, Gänge entlang von Bahnsteigen und ein Spaziergang über fast jede Ecke eines Unicampus.
Macht Spaß muss ich sagen! Wieder super viele neue Orte und Gebäude entdeckt!
Cracked 60.000 #networklocation recordings with #neostumbler, uploaded to @beacondb !
Over 120.000 wifis, 2.700 cell towers and 3.300 bluetooth beacons!
Tricks:
- follow the NeoStumbler settings
- connect phone to a powerbank, this disables the energysaver
- keep the screen on, for example with https://github.com/abdalmoniem/Caffeinate
- place phone near windows in many trains and buses
Good news everyone! Geoclue 2.7.2 is out.
Now for the bad news: Although alternatives exist, the shutdown of Mozilla Location Services (#MLS) basically crippled #Geoclue for devices without a GPS.
Help is on the way though, code for a GeoIP location source is being developed, and it should make it easy to add different providers. Please see the MR here:
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/geoclue/geoclue/-/merge_requests/186
Testing, comments, patches and suggestions for GeoIP providers are welcome!
#MobileLinux #location
Wow. I just learned about #beacondb!
A public domain #wireless #geolocation #database.
ethically sourced privacy friendly abuse resistant
Do you have an old #PinePhone lying in the cupboard?
Dev versions of #ModemManager now support #GPS without a SIM card. Consumers of the MM API need some changes for this, so I submitted pull requests to #Geoclue (https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/geoclue/geoclue/-/merge_requests/173), gnss-share (https://gitlab.com/postmarketOS/gnss-share/-/merge_requests/15), and my own simple #GNSS app Satellite (https://codeberg.org/tpikonen/satellite/releases) (all 3 in different languages).
Soon it will be possible to use SIMless mobile phones for things like navigation and fitness tracking.
From 15 Mar: Mozilla Axes its Privacy-Friendly Location Service - Mozilla has announced it is ending access to Mozilla Location Service (MLS), which provides accurate... https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/03/mozilla-location-services-axed #development #geoclue #mozilla
Mozilla Drops Axe on its Privacy-Friendly Location Service
Mozilla has announced it is retiring its Mozilla Location Service (MLS), which provides accurate and privacy-respecting geolocation data. Developers and third-party projects currently use MLS to provide location data, such as FreeDesktop location framework GeoClue, leveraged by apps like GNOME’s Maps and Weather, have only a few months left to use it. We knew cuts were coming from the new CEO but the axe has fallen ruthlessly quick on this! New API access keys will not be granted going forward (and pending requests deleted), Mozilla say. In late March, POST data submissions will return 403 responses. Finally, on June 12, 
#News #Development #Geoclue #Mozilla
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/03/mozilla-location-services-axed
After being kneecapped by a #patents troll years ago, #Mozilla Location Services, the only somewhat trusted (non-Google/Apple) "Wi-Fi positioning system" (geolocation based on triangulating collected #WiFi SSIDs), is now shutting down: https://github.com/mozilla/ichnaea/issues/2065
MLS was how #GeoClue could get a meters-accurate location without a #GPS receiver / sky line-of-sight.
It was used by many #GNOME / #KDE apps to get instantaneous neighborhood-level location (for maps, local weather…) on #Linux laptops.
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